Late Model E Bodies

[Joeychgo]

Ok -- We all know the Challenger and Barracuda are the main focus here since they are true classic mopars.

However... The following models are also considered E Bodies

1983-1988 Dodge 600
1985-1988 Plymouth Caravelle
1983-1984 Chrysler E-Class
1983-1987 Chrysler New Yorker
1988 Chrysler New Yorker Turbo
So..... What do we do in the forums about these cars? Ignore them os include them? If we include them, how should we do so?

[burntorange70]

I would say ignore them. But that is just me.

[AlleyoopMgv]

If they are E-bodies, they can't be ignored. just my opinion. If you were to include them, just do like on for b-bodies, make a list on the homepage that specifies what e-bodies consist of. there all Mopars to me, it's not like they're brand x cars.

[PastorTom1]

How about a separate forum for the 83 to 88 crowd, starting with a thread that shows the specific list of those late model inclusions? :rolleyes:

[Joeychgo]

That would seem to be most likely

[AdamR]

I dont know if anyone reallys knows those cars were "ebodies" and dont think you will get any traffic from them.

How ever you may want to put up a New Challenger section.

[rumblefish360]

83 - 89 Doge 600, Chrysler E-class, Caravelle, New Yorker are front wheel drive cars.
The lettering system was used for a second time and have nothing in common with the older cars. I agree with Adam on this.

[rumblefish360]

If they are E-bodies, they can't be ignored.
Oh yes they can be, LOL. Theres no call in any manor for these cars in the aftermarket or performance crownd unless there made into strip cars and caged.

[PastorTom1]

I honestly don't think there'd be any response to a forum either, but one never knows........I just have never seen any of those listed there in shows for any reason, or customized in any way............Probably the only takers would be E-Body enthusiasts who happened to own one of them at some point.:D

[71bigblock]

There's gotta be some stuff in JCWhitney you can buy for them?

lol

[res1vw21]

hey I am restoring my 1983-1987 Chrysler New Yorker......

ok ok bad joke

[72challorange]

I never knew they were e- bodies.

Tom

[PastorTom1]

There's gotta be some stuff in JCWhitney you can buy for them?

lol


That's cold................ :D:D:D:D

[AlleyoopMgv]

You guys don't know what the hell your talking about! This is total performance! LOL! I don't care either way. I just thought if someone wanted to acknowledge it, who cares, let em' I didn't even know they were considered E-bodies. Sorry to all! MY BAD!!

[res1vw21]

I always thought they were m or j...

[73challenger_TN]

I always thought they were m or j...

I did too...

[AdamR]

I thought they were Js too, J=Junk.

[res1vw21]

Car Series Body Standard Engine
Optional Engines Standard
Transmission Optional
Transmissions Axle Ratio Opt A.R. Tire Size Wheel Colt L 24 1.4 - M4 - 3.17 - 155SR13 4.0J Colt L 44 1.4 - M4x2 - 3.46 - 155SR13 4.0J Colt Deluxe M 24 1.4 1.6 M4x2 A3 3.47 2.80 155SR13 4.5J Colt Custom H 24/44 1.6 - M4x2 A3 3.47 2.80 155SR13 4.5J Challenger H 23 2.6 - M5 A3 3.31 - P195170HR14 5.5J Omni E 44 1.6 2.2 M4 M5/A3 2.69 /2.78 P175175R13 5.0JB Charger H 24 1.6 2.2 M4 M5/A3 2.69 /3.37 P175175R13 5.0JB Omni Custom H 44 1.6 2.2 M4 M5/A3 2.69 /2.78 P175/75R13 5.0JB Charger 2.2 P 24 2.2 - M5 A3 2.57 2.78 P195/60R14 5.5JJ Aries L 21/41 2.2 - M4 A3 2.69 2.78 P175175R13 5.0JB Aries Custom H 45 2.2 2.6 M4 M5/A3 2.69 /2.78 P175175R13 5.0JB Aries Special Edition H (c) 21/41/45 2.2 2.6 M4 M5/A3 2.69 /2.78 P175175R13 5.0JB 400 P 22/27/41 2.2 2.6 M5 - 2.57 3.02 P185170R14 5.5JJ 600 H 41 2.2 2.6 Auto - 3.02 - P185170R14 5.5JJ 600 ES S 41 2.2 2.6 M5 A3 2.57 - P185170R14 5.5JJ Diplomat Salon L 41 3.7 5.2 Auto - 2.94 - P195/75R15 5.5JJ Diplomat Medallion H 41 3.7 5.2 Auto - 2.94 - P195175R15 5.5JJ Mirada S 22 3.7 5.2 Auto - 2.94 2.2 P195175R15 5.5JJ

[res1vw21]

ok so that didn't work

[res1vw21]

Well best I can find so far is on all par it says an omni is a e series, but not the custom that's an h so I am still looking. Where did you find the info saying they were e's?

[res1vw21]

Well I found a little more:

Chrysler E Class - 1983-1985

This was the Chrysler for people who wanted an efficient front drive family sedan with more room than a K car and a bit of flash. The car was marketed against the Buick Century and Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera. The E Class was for those people who need more than the "personal luxury" LeBaron but not the girth or cost of a Fifth Avenue. The car came in one model level, but was available with many options both á la carte or in packages allowing the buyer to configure it as they needed it. Engines available were the 2.2 liter normally aspirated 4, the Mitsubishi 2.6 and for 1984 2.2 FI and Turbo 2.2. It did not sell in the numbers that Chrysler had expected so it was dropped at the end of the 1984 model year.

Dodge 600 1983-1988


The 600 was the midsized choice from Dodge. It was offered as the standard 600, the luxury 600SE and the 600ES Sport Sedan. Styling features the Mirada like "slat" grille and quad headlights set into the front fascia. This version of the E car was meant to cover many bases, from grocery getter to Audi killer. Engines again were the 2.2, 2.2 FI, 2.5FI and 2.2 Turbo.

Chrysler New Yorker -1983 - 1988

The New Yorker was Chrysler's ultimate expression of the front wheel drive car and the top of Chrysler's line (later models were more expensive than even the Fifth Avenue (http://www.allpar.com/model/dodge-diplomat.html); my 1987 was more expensive than the most heavily optioned Fifth Avenue of that year. I researched the prices and matched them against the "window" sticker I got with the car.) It was marketed as a contemporary and technologically advanced luxury car aimed for those who wanted the style and content of a premium sedan without the girth and thirst of a large barge [editor’s note: interior space was similar to the Diplomat; see our comparison (http://www.allpar.com/history/plymouth/1986.html)]. It came as only one model, the four-door sedan.







Ok so it looks like I kinda stand corrected.

[quapman]

So it's E "class", not E "body", right? :confused:

I was a little confoosed for a while there....could swear those were K-cars.

Whew!

[ramenth]

I always thought they were m or j...

M-bodies: Dodge Diplomat and it's triplets: the Mexican Dodge Dart and the South American Dodge Coronet; late '70s early '80s Chrysler LeBaron and the Chrysler 5th Ave.; Plymouth Gran Fury and it's Canadian twin the Caravelle.

J-body: The Dodge Mirada, the '80-83 Chrysler Cordoba and the '81-'83 Imperial.

All derivatives off the F-body platform in sharing the lateral torsion bar suspension.

Really as for saying they're junk remember the M-body, Volvo's false advertisement not withstanding, proved themselves to be the safest car on American roads through the '80s, lend a lot of parts to the hot rod scene, including parts for our older cars, and had literally billions of miles in cop and taxi duty.

[res1vw21]

I do think a spot for the newer challengers might bring more traffic but I think the newer LY platform owners aren't necessary car people.

[ramenth]

Not sure about that one, Ross. I've met quite a few of 'em who are definately car people. But a forum for LY and/or LX platform might not be a bad idea.

[ramenth]

I do think a spot for the newer challengers might bring more traffic but I think the newer LY platform owners aren't necessary car people.



Just another thought on this that occured to me on this one: if someone is coming online to research a performance upgrade to a car or where to buy such parts or looking for help in fixing it themselves wouldn't you pretty much figure they're a car guy?

[res1vw21]

take a look at challenger talk they cater to the LY platform cars and it seams like they are a bunch of new car people. I was looking at their site to see what I could gleam for my dads car but I couldn't take the repetitive simple questions. (how do I install my sill plates, look at this wax I bought.....) Over here and on FABO the questions and answers seem to be a little bit more in depth, I do realize that people are restoring vs buying new. I seemed like there were a few that knew what they were doing but it was only a few.

I don't think it would be a bad thing to include them but just be ware.

The pics are from our road trim back in july when we picked up the car. We flew to Idaho (dave smith) and drove it back to Seattle. He really likes his car and I have to say It impresses me too, I just would rather spent the $38k (after tax...) on a '70.

[ramenth]

take a look at challenger talk they cater to the LY platform cars and it seams like they are a bunch of new car people. I was looking at their site to see what I could gleam for my dads car but I couldn't take the repetitive simple questions. (how do I install my sill plates, look at this wax I bought.....) Over here and on FABO the questions and answers seem to be a little bit more in depth, I do realize that people are restoring vs buying new. I seemed like there were a few that knew what they were doing but it was only a few.

I don't think it would be a bad thing to include them but just be ware.

The pics are from our road trim back in july when we picked up the car. We flew to Idaho (dave smith) and drove it back to Seattle. He really likes his car and I have to say It impesses my too, I just would rather spent the $38k (after tax...) on a '70.


I know where you're coming from. I'm not being contrary, I know what you're saying, so don't get me wrong, but we were all new to the hobby once upon a time. Personally, I was lucky enough to have my dad to introduce me to it, so when I asked the stupid questions ages ago he was patient enough to tell me what I needed to know.
I know what you're saying: "what wax do you use?" is like asking "do you prefer boxers or briefs" or the dreaded "how do you buff a car?" Hard to answer that one, step by step over the internet without actually throwing the chord over your shoulder and showing someone. But what the heck! If we can "show" the basics to someone then we might be able to get 'em to take something more in depth on and help them build confidence later on.
Nice shots of the Challenger, by the way. I like it.
As far as if the LY/LX crowd wants to come in why not put the question up to the owners of the crowd and see?