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WDO72

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Hi All,

I've just joined For E Bodies Only and would like to take a moment to introduce myself.

I'm WDO72, or Bill, as my friends know me. I'm currently restoring a '72 'cuda and will most likely build a resto mod.

When I purchased the 'cuda, it had a '76 318 with a 904 trans, was missing the fender tags, and contained a shredded broadcast sheet which was illegible. I figured this was to may advantage, as I was looking to build my dream 'cuda my way without a mind to matching numbers or the concern of destroying a collectible car.

It's been an awesome adventure so far, and I was lucky enough to find a second original broadcast sheet from a previous owner of the car. Amazingly, I found the sheet as a result of researching the 'cuda's vin on google. Additionally, weeks after I purchased the 'cuda, I found an early '71 440 HP police pursuit engine, which is due back from the machine shop in the next month.

For as long as I can remember, the 'cuda has been my favorite muscle car. Also, I recall as a young man dreaming about someday building a Mopar version of the Last of the V8 Interceptors. Now, the fusion of both is slowly materializing into one awesome machine. My imagination was charged by hot rods and the cars that were built to catch them!

There's much more to tell. But, I'll save it for another day.

Thanks to all the For E Body Only members for making this forum possible. I'm looking forward to being a part of the forum.

Best,
Bill - WDO72
 

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Welcome to the site from the Motor City! I love your enthusiasm and look forward to hearing more about your project.
 

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Hi Bill, welcome to our site from Canada. Glad to hear your wishes are coming true.
How about a couple of pics, we love pics....(and stories!).
The best of luck to you sir.
 

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Hi All,

I appreciate the welcome, and it's good to make your acquaintance.

I like the idea of starting a restoration thread for the project, and I'll do so when I have a bit more time. For the moment, I'll link a couple of what I think are some interesting photos from the project so far.

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I take it the drivers door has been replaced. Thanks for the photos, how is the body?like the white interior
 

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Welcome to the site Bill from Michigan. Good luck on your Cuda project. Looks like you rescued that 440:thumbsup:.
 

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I found the '71 440 as a result of searching for blocks on the internet. As you can see in the photos, the engine wasn't properly stored, and that's an understatement. From what I was told by the previous owner of the 440, Wendy, the 440 and attached 727 trans was taken out of a '71 CHP Police Pursuit Polara. The Polara belonged to her neighbor, a retired chief of police who used the car during his many years of service.

Since the car meant so much to the chief and it was due to be replaced by a newer model anyway, the Polara was gifted to the chief upon his retirement. The chief turned out to be a neighbor of the person I purchased the engine from. So the story goes, that the chief passed away shortly after his retirement. Yet, the chief's son had a 70s mopar that he wanted to swap the 440 into. So, the chief's son hoisted the 440 from the Polara, dropped it onto a tire in his back yard, and threw a tarp over it. There the 440 sat for about 20 years, exposed to the elements and taking on water.

To make this story all the more convoluted, all the while, Wendy, the person I purchased the block from, wanted to buy the block from the chief's son in order to rebuild it and install the 440 into her '71 charger. However, because of the son's sentimental attachment, he held onto the block only to let it sit in his back yard. Fast forward to two years ago, the son decides it's time to clean up his back yard and finds several forgotten engines impeding his progress, among them the 440. Recalling that his neighbor, Wendy wanted the 440 for her '71 charger, the son offered the blocks free of charge. However, Wendy no longer owned the Charger. Yet, she accepted the block anyway and had the chief's son move it into her back yard. That's where I come into the picture.

During my search for a usable 440 block, I found an ad on craigslist for a 440 police pursuit engine with trans. I jumped at it. Yet, I didn't receive a call back. So, I phoned again. And, again. And, again..... Finally weeks later persistence paid off, Wendy phoned back. Yet, she explained that someone was interested and that it was sold. Weeks later, I couldn't stop thinking about the 440. It was the exact block I wanted for my build. So, on an off chance, I phoned Wendy again, and found that the engine was still available. Wendy mentioned that the potential buyer removed a head and didn't like what he found, so he passed on the engine. This didn't sound good.

The engine was located 3 hours drive north of my place. This was quite the undertaking, considering that the most likely outcome would be that I found a seized, non viable engine. I took the gamble and set out. When I arrived, Wendy was no where to be found. I phoned her, and she said that she'd gone shopping, but she'd be back in a bit.

While I was waiting, Wendy said that I was free to pull my truck around into her back yard which was accessed through a farm gate. I did so, and sadly spied the 440 sunken into the mud. This was not what I expected to find. On head was removed and parts were strewn all around the yard. Yes. All around. Worse yet, it was lightly raining, and the engine was uncovered with both a head and the intake manifold removed. I was in shock. I can still remember my heart pounding with irritation and disgust at the sign of it all.

Wendy, finally returned. And, before I could get a word out of my mouth, she launched into the back story of the 440 of which you've already read. I wish I had the words to describe her. She was a real animated character. She was the type to sell a tin cup to a beggar with the aid of a sappy story. Well, while telling the rest of the tale Wendy began gathering up the strewn engine parts and placing them in a pile next to my truck. I said, "Hold on. Wait a minute. I'm not even sure this block is able to be rebuilt." Wendy said, "Of course it can be. It's perfect. I checked the dipstick and there's still oil in it."

Well, when I checked the dipstick, it was full of that nasty light brown foamy oil/water mix. My heart sunk. At that, Wendy launched into another tale about how she was an auto mechanic and body repair specialist at one point in her life. So, she was absolutely sure that the foamy nastiness inside the block actually preserved the engine all these years. I figured that her story was a load of bull. Yet, I didn't travel all that way just to return home empty handed. So, I took the leap and we began to discuss the price. I felt like a complete moron the whole time we haggled. She wanted $1,200, which was $200 more than her ad stated. I knew I was in for it, and from what I saw, every part on the engine was just junk. We haggled for about a half an hour while we both collected 440 parts around her yard. I found a motor mount which was still attached to a torched frame rail under a pile of junk. I found the valve covers in a pile of old motorcycle parts. The 440 4 barrel intake was underneath a pallet. And, so it went. By the time we exhausted the search, we settled on $650 as the price, and Wendy added a couple of buckets miscellaneous mopar nuts, bolts, clips and some fans to the mix as well.

After we shook hands, I shelled out the $650, and lifted the 440 onto the bed of my truck. It was a funny feeling at that moment. I was both extremely excited and disgusted at the prospect of the engine. I can imagine that's what it must feel like the moment before either you win it big or loose it all in Las Vegas. Well, Wendy thanked me and asked that I send along photos of the 440 in the 'cuda once the car was completed. It gave me some hope to hear that, and I promised Wendy that I'd send some photos when the car was up and running.

The next day I began the process of dismantling the block. The first order of business was to remove the 727 hp trans and drain the oil. The trans was easy to remove, yet the oil was a different story. I hoisted the block into the air, placed a 5 gallon bucket beneath the drain hole and pulled the plug. I figured that a bit of nasty oil and water would pour out; Maybe like 3 quarts and I'd be done. Once I removed the drain plug, it seemed like an eternity had passed before the engine was empty. To my surprise, I filled an entire 5 gallon bucket with foamy tan sludgy water. After that, I wasn't sure why I continued to dismantle the engine. But, I did. I felt for certain that the whole ordeal was just a colossal waste of time and money.

Out of sheer desperation I placed the engine on a stand and continued to dismantle the block. I removed the valley pan and found the valley covered in tan sludge. So, I placed a tray on the floor and flipped the engine around. More sludge dumped out onto the tray. I removed the oil pan, and I found that the rotating assembly was covered by the sludge as well. However, once I began to wash away the sludge, I noticed that almost all of the components were rust free with a slight few exceptions. Miraculously, as Wendy had promised, the sludge preserved the internals. I would have never thought this possible if I hadn't seen and experience it for myself.

The day following I dropped the block off at the machine shop to have it cleaned, magnaflux tested, rough bored, and inspected. And, to my surprise it cleared at .030 over and was good to go!

Best,
Bill
 

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Yes, I thought that the 70 door tag was fun, so I thought I'd share that.

The body on the 'cuda is in very good shape, surprisingly. Before I found the car, it had been in storage for 20 years. Prior to that, as you can see by the rust on the tail, it was stored outside, so I was told. There is a bit of rust on the lower rear quarters, so it'll need quarter patches. And, in my opinion the trunk pan will need to be replaced as well. Maybe the trunk extensions and a little 2" x 4" sheet metal work on the drivers side back seat floor pan. Otherwise, the unibody is solid. The doors are both from a 70 along with the right fender. However, all things considered, they're in very good shape and rust free.

For it's age, the white interior was in fair shape. Yet, being that I'm going to entirely restore/replace the interior, I may go with black rather than the white. I'm going to repaint the car the original EV2. Yet, I do think the white is very cool.
 

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What a great story, thats what dreams are made of...
I could almost hear Wendy trying to hustle you, lol
 

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Bill :welcome: to FEBO from New Jersey
Glad you joined up.
Quite a story on that 440!
Looking forward to seeing your work.
Just as a reference; there may be other build sheets in other places in your car!
 
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It's good to meet you, and thanks for the welcome!

Here are more photos of the 'cuda to date.

340challconvert, thanks for the build sheet suggestion. :) I did manage to find a second broadcast sheet. It's mentioned in the aforementioned story, and there is a photo of it below.

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And, photos of the 'cuda when I found it. I thought that I'd posted them already. Yet, I don't see them above.
After these photos, I'll begin creating a restoration thread.

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Welcome from Arkansas Bill! Great story my man, that’s fun stuff. Looking forward to your progress.
 
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