reproduction fender tags

[MoparCarGuy]

In California, when a vehicle goes unregistered (not ticketed, and off the radar) for 10 years, or so, it's dropped from their computer databases. At that point, when registering the vehicle, the VIN number is only visually confirmed, and not checked for validity against anything historical. This means, IF you forge/alter the title document, prior registration sheet, dash VIN plate (which they reprint) and the door VIN sticker (also available reproduction) then the engine letter in the VIN can be altered from a G to, for example, an R, then the vehicle is registered as such, nice and legal. Not easy to do, but it can be done. Pour a few beers into a guy I once knew, and he'd tell you all about it.

...which makes the Broadcast Sheet and other original ordering paperwork plus Window Sticker that much more important to prove a car's original configuration.
Two most common locations below.

 

[bigtreeicons808]

Follow up.
I ask. trebor*99 on EBAY.
What is the process of having a fender tag made for a Dodge Challenger. Material you use, time from when ordered, shipping, payment method and cost. Do you have any examples that you have done you can show with with sensitive information black out. Customer information keep privet?

His response about 3-4 days later. I think a Good response time.

Hello, Thank you for your interest. We are located in the Netherlands, Europe. We've been making data plates for 25 years and have shipped them to the US without any problems. Recently US Customs have become stricter with checking and opening packages from overseas. If there is a plate with a serial number, they can seize or return to sender. At this moment it makes our business not workable for US sells. But if you have a Canadian address available, we can work something out and give all the other info you asked. Regards, Robert

Seems to be a reapable seller.


So at this time one need's a good member from up north.

He no longer sells to the USA, the tariffs have shut him down from my experience. If you have someone in another country that can send it to you, he will send it there. good luck

 

[pschlosser]

He no longer sells to the USA, the tariffs have shut him down from my experience. If you have someone in another country that can send it to you, he will send it there. good luck

The U.S. tariffs are more or less cancelled, as of this writing, but the greater issue may be consumer protection and regulation. The reproduction fender tags bump against federal laws relating to counterfeit vehicle identification products and fraud protection. Many of these fender tags don't make it through U.S. customs. These are U.S. made cars, and so other countries are not going to have the safeguards in place to protect the consumer like they do in the U.S. It's inconvenient for those taking delivery of the fender tag in the U.S., but should be fine pretty much anywhere else.

 

[bigtreeicons808]

The U.S. tariffs are more or less cancelled, as of this writing, nut the greater issue is consumer protection and regulation. The reproduction fender tags bump against federal laws relating to counterfeit vehicle identification products and fraud protection. Many of these fender tags don't make it through U.S. customs. These are U.S. made cars, and so other countries are not going to have the safeguards in place to protect the consumer like they do in the U.S. It's inconvenient for those taking delivery of the fender tag in the U.S., but should be fine pretty much anywhere else.

To be clear, I do not believe Robert from eBay (Trebor 99) ever sold fender tags. He sold VIN tags as his embossed stamper has the flat 8. Again, if I am incorrect, by all means let me know but I never saw his name or company being attached to Fender tags and only VIN tags according to my experience with him.

 

[Old Mopar]

Please cite the law - there is no government requirement for a car to have a fender tag.

"The reproduction fender tags bump against federal laws relating to counterfeit vehicle identification products and fraud protection".

 

[Challenger RTA]

counterfeit vehicle identification

That's the big one. There have been parts replace from an other car with a different VIN. Is that wrong! No! It's the point of misrepresentation of what it is.

 

[pschlosser]

Please cite the law - there is no government requirement for a car to have a fender tag.

"The reproduction fender tags bump against federal laws relating to counterfeit vehicle identification products and fraud protection".

8 U.S.C. § 511 and 49 CFR Part 565, prohibit the unauthorized manufacture, alteration, or tampering of VIN plates to prevent auto theft and fraud.

The issue isn't the option codes (being altered) on the fender tag as much as the VIN number. Since it contains the VIN, the whole plate falls under the purview of some federal laws. We have many laws that are poorly enforced. But technically, any reproduction of a part (not authorized by the department of transportation) that contains the vehicle identification number is vulnerable to laws protecting consumers against theft and fraud.

 

[Katfish]

Eh, little stretch there, that code defines the VIN requirements.
Altering VIN is obviously illegal, doubt altering an option code would fall under altering the VIN.

 

[pschlosser]

doubt altering an option code would fall under altering the VIN.

I absolutely agree. I suspect if the fender tag didn't contain the VIN, there would be little reason to oppose its reproduction, or justify its seizure by US customs when shipped.

 

[Challenger RTA]

The point is the VIN. It being assigned to a vehicle that's way it should stay by law. Not altering it by a number or letter. But damage and rust have an effect on the parts that the VIN is stamped on. Cowl and Radiator support, sometimes are replaced and the dash vin stays intact. These are changed all the time motor and transmission with a vin stamped on them. The law is not being broken or is it? The fender tag calls out the accouterments of the vehicle. The only way to prove it is with the broadcast sheet and or window sticker. I say that in the event that all options are not listed on all three. Such as M73. It is on the broadcast sheet and window stick but not on the fender tag. That's where the real value is, the documentation.

So the bottom line is you can get a reproduced Dash vin tag. And the reproducer of the dash tag is not being arrested. Is that breaking the law? The same for the fender tag. That really means nothing if there is no documentation.