Need door window hardware help, please.

[Kansan]

My '73 cuda needs a new window roller bushing on the driver's side. I have ordered this kit with the intention of just changing the bad roller bushing now and taking the door apart over the winter.

https://www.classicindustries.com/product/1973/plymouth/cuda/parts/me8141.html

As you can see the the kit includes screw-in type roller bushings, However, my current bushings aren't screw in, but more like pressed in. My car has a non-original driver's door, as indicated by the blue overspray under the door panel. When i looked at the passenger side, it had the same type bushing but still had original GK6 paint overspray under the door panel.

Question: Has anyone one used the Classic Industries kit and how did you replace the roller bushings?

Side note: The driver's side outer window trim felt has been pop-riveted in, so I would have to drill them out to remove the window/register assembly. Didn't want to get that deep into it until the winter.

Thanks for any insight.

Kansan

 

[Surfcuda]

Hey Kansas, if this is what you’re looking for I found these in my parts bin. I will donate them to you if they are what need. 🏝

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[Kansan]

Thanks, Surfcuda....those look like the roller bushing I'm looking for....

Jerry

 

[Surfcuda]

Awesome, PM me your address and the rollers are yours. Always cool to help out when I can. I will send them to you. Regards Rob 🏝

 

[Kansan]

Text sent....

 

[Bushtroop]

I am attempting to add to this thread, and am unsure if I should do so or start a new one. This is all new to me.

I need to install the passenger door window in my 1973 Barracuda. It has sat in my car for 4 years with a board supporting the front of the glass due to the track components failing. I bought a kit for E bodies from a big outfit and some parts aren't evident on my door and some parts seem to be missing from the kit. The image for parts for a 1972 seems to have the white wheel in my photo that I have glued back together. Is it possible that 1972 parts were used on a 73? Is it possible that parts in the kit have been reengineered and substitute for my 52 year old parts? (as an example, the orange wheels that have a threaded stud through the center, from the kit, don't seem to have a comparable in the door.)

My chassis Service Manual has narrative walking me through the process but at this stage, I am not intelligent enough to comprehend it. The diagram in my parts catalogue show 112 items for one side of the car.

Can anyone help me with an illustration that shows the parts that affix to the glass? Every spacer/wheel/washer/guide/nut/ect. Ideally something that is clear and understandable. If not, does anyone have photos that might guide me? I have spent days trying to fix my own problem on the internet and failed. "Help me Obi-Wan, you're our only hope"

 

[Challenger RTA]

Is it possible that 1972 parts were used on a 73?

One of two things might be the problem or both. 1 Manufacturing date? 2 Someone over the years changed regulator parts?

 

[Challenger RTA]

If you don't have this info. You will need it latter. Someone might come along that has had your same experience. I searched the site and really didn't see the same problem.

This might help. Not sure what plate you talking about. Picture?

Parallelism and Primary Seal
(1) Raise window completely.
(2) Loosen screw at belt on upper end of front
track.
(3) Align and set front edge of glass to “A” pillar
and top edge to roof rail weatherstrip creating a
parallelism with weatherstrip locating bead.
(4) Secure upper
In-Out and Secondary Seal
port.
(5) Loosen bottom screws on front track lower sup-
(6) Loosen bottom screw on rear track support.
Push front track lower support. Outboard for inboard
contact at weatherstrip. Allow rear track to create it’s
own plane, parallel to front track.
(7) Secure previously loosened front track lower
support screws.
(8) Secure rear track lower support screws.
(9) Secure front track lower support screws.
If additional alignment to ”A” pillar or roof rail is
necessary, adjust regulator idler arm pivot
rail is
necessary, adjust regulator idler arm pivot bracket
up or down as required and secure.
(10) Secure regulator arm pivot guide to panel. ////////The long and short of this is.! Door hinges good? door gap aliened to quarter panel. and 1/4 window up and back, not to hit door glass on closing! can fine tune rear later. have track loose at all points, Not falling apart! move forward and up to seal. until satisfied. Idea is to have the 2 vertical track parallel when done and leaning in or out the same. bottom track adjustment when moved have a lager range and effect of movement top not as much. You have to study the components to know what each and ever function is.
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[Challenger RTA]

https://www.forebodiesonly.com/forum/threads/window-guides-–-1970-dodge-challenger-r-t.11636/

 

[Bushtroop]

C

Thread 'Window Guides – 1970 Dodge Challenger R/T'

Mar 17, 2016

Need help identifying and installation instructions for window guides. I bought the car with windows, regulators and guides in a box of parts. The driver and passage side door windows and back quarter panels are all installed now. Everything works but seems to be lots of play. I assume the guides tighten things up. I’m just not sure where these parts go. (see photos). As you can see, the felt is worn or missing. I was able to install the windows using my Challenger Service Manual. However, I can’t seem to find any reference to these parts. Can anyone tell me where these guys go? Am I...

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A vast improvement over what I have had, thank you. I can't have enough "investigative leads". In my life, when I don't know how to do something, I jump in with both feet and figure it out. I am slow to take that approach here. I have no idea what spacers or bushings are needed to protect the glass from damage by the hardware.

 

[Bushtroop]

I see that there are written or digital sources for diagrams I am not familiar with. I read Hamatrmck on the bottom of one of these images. Going to that site, I don't find this image. Are their other sources or a short guide on how to find the image you have provided me. I have found several sources for how to adjust the window, but nothing on what parts and pieces attach to the glass and subsequently to the regulator. That is my primary issue. I can examine my other door but I have no idea what parts may not be evident visually. Due to the level of corrosion, I had to destroy parts to get my passenger window out, so taking my drivers door apart to examine it isn't a good option.

Does anyone have photos that show these parts on the glass that can guide me?

Half of Alaska's population lives within 40 miles of me. I found one old guy who knew these vintage systems. He just left for Arizona for 4 months.

I have edited the image provided by 'Challenger RTA' and cropped it to focus in on the segment that I am asking for help with. I have been very slow to ask anyone for assistance my entire life. Previously, this forum provided the solution for what for me was an insurmountable problem. I am hopeful that you all can do it again. Thank you so much. regards r

 

[Challenger RTA]

If I don't have it saved on a hard drive.
I usually start on this site looking for information. The members here a very knowable. Use the search top right corner.
The trick is the way it was listed if it gets a hit. The lister not being familiar of the of the part or problem. Like M46 Cuda hunter is all over it! Or it's listed as hood scoops. Cuda hunter will eventually see it.

I also look on the other MOPAR web sites.

For A Bodies Only Mopar Forum

A-Body MOPAR club and forums for the Plymouth Barracuda, Plymouth Valiant, Dodge Dart, Duster and other A-Body Mopar automobiles and Mopar muscle cars, and Classic Mopar parts.

www.forabodiesonly.com

For B Bodies Only Classic Mopar Forum

Classic Mopar Forum for B Body platform Plymouth, Dodge and Chrysler automobile enthusiasts

www.forbbodiesonly.com

For E Bodies Only Mopar Forum

E Body Mopar Club for the Plymouth Barracuda and Dodge Challenger - Chrysler E platform

www.forebodiesonly.com

Very good for info.

E-Bodies.org Cuda Challenger Forum - Index

E-Bodies.org Cuda Challenger Forum - Index

forum.e-bodies.org

MyMopar

mymopar.com

Others I just look around.

Mopar Forums

The website and live community for Mopar owners.

moparforums.com

Newer challenger

https://www.challengertalk.com/threads/im-back-with-a-newly-mostly-completed-cuda-conversion.720566/

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https://www.challengerforumz.com/threads/the-first-look.161483/

 

[Challenger RTA]

If you look at the pictures in post #8. It shows the glass attached. It is difficult to make out the order of components. I have to look for other pictures I might have. Someone might have window laying around and show it. I really have not seen any order of parts list assembly except what you posted. They are also hard to make out the parts. If there is a list of parts in order and part numbers on the parts. that would be a help to put the puzzle tougher. But that's not the case.
As I understand the track are the same. ? 70? I seen them listed that way. Someone can confirm or deny.

 

[Bushtroop]

If I don't have it saved on a hard drive.
I usually start on this site looking for information. The members here a very knowable. Use the search top right corner.
The trick is the way it was listed if it gets a hit. The lister not being familiar of the of the part or problem. Like M46 Cuda hunter is all over it! Or it's listed as hood scoops. Cuda hunter will eventually see it. View attachment 148201
I also look on the other MOPAR web sites.

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http://[URL]https://forum.e-bodies.org/

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http://[URL]https://mymopar.com/

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Others I just look around.

http://[URL]https://moparforums.com/forums/

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Newer challenger

http://[URL]https://www.challengert...ewly-mostly-completed-cuda-conversion.720566/

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http://[URL]https://www.challengerforum.com/threads/aar-cuda.9438/

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I am beyond grateful to you for the time and effort you have devoted to my issue. I appreciate the links very much. In your last image you provide a reasonably clear diagram. I find that I had marked essentially the same image in the Body Service Manual months ago, and forgotten. There are enough differences in the two that yours must have come from a different source. Can you tell me what that might be?