FOR SALE A true factory-reference, investment-grade 1970 Plymouth Barracuda – numbers-matching, California survivor
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BR340
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The heavily formatted responses with bullets, bolding and especially the emojis is all just copy/pasted straight from ChatGPT. This is what the output of the current version of ChatGPT looks like. The ad copy and responses are mostly just AI-written, which explains the over-the-top "true factory-reference and investment-grade" description, hallucination of exact production figures which we know don't exist with that level of certainty and mixing up what transmission the car was originally delivered with. "Multiple sources" = ChatGPT.
Good luck with the sale. It looks like a solid car.
Good luck with the sale. It looks like a solid car.
Adam
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I believe 1970 California built cars were not available with the dual exhaust through the valance. This could be another "dealer installed" item, but then the tips would be correct. Still a very nice car.
Hi Adam and thanks for your message. I never considered that possibility because the Broadcast Sheet has entries for both left and right side exhaust. I did look into the CA legal situation in 1970 - there were no California-specific restrictions in 1970 regarding dual exhaust or valence exit tips. CA did have regs on emissions, which is why my Window Sticker shows Evaporative Emission Control (N95). That emissions feature was required for CA registration in 1970.
Your suggestion on the dual exhaust, valence and tips potentially being installed by the Dealer is well taken. Your comment prompted me to sleuth further and I noted the Window Sticker does not show the N41 (dual exhaust) option, which was a billable option. That suggests the factory config could have been single exhaust, which then got upgraded at the Dealership. That is consistent with the other muscle car styling add ons the Original Owner opted for at the time. Thank you for your insight.
Thanks for your message DPC. I'm probably diff than many Sellers - I posted here first because I know there are many folks who have tremendous knowledge and would politely point things out if I had it wrong. I'm very appreciative of the knowledge share and will make mods to my ad copy accordingly. Thanks again.
TomIGo
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6PKRTSE has a great pic of what the dual exhaust tips should look like in this post Auto Metal Direct Bumpers third or fourth pic showing the hind end of his red 70 Challenger.
See last bullet under Condition Highlights. It reads:
• Note: original front bumper being prepped for re-chroming. Included in sale.
It had some chrome flaking from what I believe may have been underlying dirt from a previous poorly executed rechrome. So, I pulled it, stripped it and sent it off for a high quality job.
Thanks BR. I already shared that I utilized use of all the AI engines for research / fact checking - that's not being disguised but it's also not the exclusive source. Anyway, I acknowledge that at least the 2 of you don't concur with the production numbers. I appreciate that and hoping others will weigh in. If they aren't valid, I would like to know which figures (or all) are incorrect.
Similar head scratcher on the exhaust tips. Why would the owner go to the time/expense of adding various Plymouth parts (e.g. ducktail rear spoiler, dual horns, rear valence), but then decide on Chevy Exhaust Tips? I have a 70 Challenger R/T with factory tips. I knew the tips on my Barracuda were different than the Challenger but I assumed the variation was an intentional change by Plymouth. The choice isn't rational but if Plymouth and Dodge used identical exhaust tips in 70, then mine are wrong and we'll never know why.
Re the transmission, I gave a readout on both the Window Sticker and Broadcast sheet verifying the 727. Nobody has further questioned my initial response - So, I can only conclude there is no mix up on the transmission.
