Some of the more expensive ones I've seen online (which I assume are patterned on the originals) have a formed reinforcing lip around the square opening. Those sell for a lot more than the asking price here, probably because press-forming that lip is not free or easy. These look pretty nice, but don't appear to have that formed lip. I was planning on making my own when I get to that point but may reconsider that and get a set of these from Wayne. I just looked at SpeedyMetals and I'd need to buy $70 worth of 11ga steel flat stock just to get started on them.Do they look like originals from the top side bottom looking up from under the car) or are they just flat around the shackle nuts access opening?