Proclaimed NOS parts rant

[pschlosser]

The term N.O.S. has special meaning, to me. And I think I see people throwing it around to refer to any clean part they seek to sell under the guise of N.O.S.

New Original Stock implies a never before used/installed, dealer-ordered part, that includes the original packaging. Once you bolt it to your car, it is no longer NOS.

Some of these valued parts are in reproduction, and some of those reproductions are so nice, it is difficult to distinguish them from actual NOS parts. But the original Chrysler packaging is missing.

Hood emblems, in particular, are among those falsely claimed. The repros are pretty darn nice, and not easily distinguish from NOS.

An aged and yellowed box or packaging envelope with dealer routing numbers, etc, can be a good indicator it may be NOS. But even then, there is no promise the part in question is an actual NOS part.

On more than one occasion, I've have witnessed those restoring their vehicle(s) (nice, respectable concourse restorations) taking their nearly perfectly appearing on-hand part (but non-functioning part, for one reason or another) and swapping it with an actual NOS part with its packaging. They then flip the defunct part at a swap meat, where the original box has more value than the NOS-looking-non-functional part they are selling.

Every time I see a listing for an NOS part, a part that has always been in high demand, I am dubious. 50+ years later, those NOS parts have long dried up. So how the blankity-blank could this be an NOS part, present day?

And if you pay attention, some forum users are making this claim, again and again, on very nicely cleaned up and/or restored parts as NOS without dealer packaging. They also sell other very nice looking parts. So one can surmise their restoration skilled are honed.

As for myself, the days of concourse restorations have passed. But for the newer generation on these boards, I caution you about NOS parts claims. A nicely restored part warrants a higher price. But NOS parts generally warrant the highest selling price. And I don't care to see those exploiting this, without any accountability.

I would support a ruling that states, unless the part is accompanied by appropriate vintage dealer packaging, the NOS claim isn't warranted.

I need some perspective. Do I need to take a chill pill, and just allow things to be? Allow newer generation users to be duped, and work their lessons out for themselves?

At a minimum, I hope my post holds and helps future would-be restorers to evade misrepresentation.

 

[Challenger RTA]

Deceptive practice.

The term N.O.S. has special meaning, to me.

I couldn't agree more. Some if not most. The NOS are of good quality and some but few are of poor fit and finish. That's where I think a good used OEM is a better buy.

Some of these valued parts are in reproduction, and some of those reproductions are so nice,

Those that are reporoduing the parts. Have to give them credit for making the parts to fill a hole. Heres where a makers mark sould be put on them. but that still won't stop the conterfiting.

An aged and yellowed box or packaging envelope with dealer routing numbers, etc,

That would triple price of a repop. It would only attract a buyer of a concorse retoration. The are no vin numbers on parts as the newer cars have. That makes the claim of NOS mute. It's the linage that show where and who it comes from. Original buyer or a well nos establish parts buyer seller, Tony's parts for one of many and or a member here. A missrepresented sale would tarnish there reputation. Heres where buyer beware applies. Trust no one, Believe only in lies and expext the unexpexted.
That's where being on a forum helps sort out the the good, bad and ugly.
Just my 2¢

 

[toolmanmike]

The term N.O.S. has special meaning, to me. And I think I see people throwing it around to refer to any clean part they seek to sell under the guise of N.O.S.

New Original Stock implies a never before used/installed, dealer-ordered part, that includes the original packaging. Once you bolt it to your car, it is no longer NOS.

Some of these valued parts are in reproduction, and some of those reproductions are so nice, it is difficult to distinguish them from actual NOS parts. But the original Chrysler packaging is missing.

Hood emblems, in particular, are among those falsely claimed. The repros are pretty darn nice, and not easily distinguish from NOS.

An aged and yellowed box or packaging envelope with dealer routing numbers, etc, can be a good indicator it may be NOS. But even then, there is no promise the part in question is an actual NOS part.

On more than one occasion, I've have witnessed those restoring their vehicle(s) (nice, respectable concourse restorations) taking their nearly perfectly appearing on-hand part (but non-functioning part, for one reason or another) and swapping it with an actual NOS part with its packaging. They then flip the defunct part at a swap meat, where the original box has more value than the NOS-looking-non-functional part they are selling.

Every time I see a listing for an NOS part, a part that has always been in high demand, I am dubious. 50+ years later, those NOS parts have long dried up. So how the blankity-blank could this be an NOS part, resent day?

And if you pay attention, some forum users are making this claim, again and again, on very nicely cleaned up and/or restored parts as NOS without dealer packaging. They also sell other very nice looking parts. So one can surmise their restoration skilled are honed.

As for myself, the days of concourse restorations have passed. But for the newer generation on these boards, I caution you about NOS parts claims. A nicely restored part warrants a higher price. But NOS parts generally warrant the highest selling price. And I don't care to see those exploiting this, without any accountability.

I would support a ruling that states, unless the part is accompanied by appropriate vintage dealer packaging, the NOS claim isn't warranted.

I need some perspective. Do I need to take a chill pill, and just allow things to be? Allow newer generation users to be duped, and work their lessons out for themselves?

At a minimum, I hope my post holds and helps future would-be restorers to evade misrepresentation.

I whole heartedly agree. NOS (for us) had better be an original Mopar part, unused, and with at least some of the original packaging. NORS is a new, never installed reproduction or aftermarket part. (like a set of points or a ECU) Or in this case, senders and a starter relay for my 64.

 

[cudamark]

An accurate description of a part is the most important. No way you're going to keep the scam artists from duping people. If a part is NOS, new take-off, or used, just describe the condition. I've seen NOS parts in the factory box that had all sorts of flaws in them. I've seen used parts that in better shape than said NOS part. Personally, I've bought NOS inventories. Not all those NOS parts came with the original box and paperwork. After 50+ years, some of the cardboard and paper literally falls to bits. That doesn't make the part any less desirable for a restoration IMO. Just describe it accurately. Oh, and if you think Tony's Parts is totally on the up and up, you have another thought coming. Been there, got screwed.

 

[Mr Cuda]

So what do we call this?
It was bolted to the car, to store it and transport, but never prepped or painted.
Body parts that are NOS have shelf wear, and this has kep bolt marks from being attached. And yes, I was going to post it for sale as NOS.
NOS istalled?

 

[larry4406]

I’ve seen the term “NOS Take-Off” many times in ads. What does that mean?

During the ‘80’s I bought many parts at the dealer. Many shipped without a box.