73 barracuda upper and lower front grill assembly diagram needed.

[Flathead31coupe]

Looking.\nFor a diagram that shows the mounting hardware and mounting points for the upper and lower grill assembly.. I Have this kit here ... I did not take out the old one so I did not know where the little black plastic pieces go or the white pieces. Looks like there are 5 mounting points on the lower grill.Not sure which clips to use.I'm assuming the two silver screws would be going into the silver part of the grill..any help would be appreciated or diagram , thanks

 

[Flathead31coupe]

Do the the metal mounting clips go on the plastic grill itself. I did not take the grill assembly apart..

 

[larry4406]

Similar thread but not a lot of detail. I believe the 6 black phillips head screws and 6 metal panel nuts are to to mount the head lamp bezels (3 each per lamp). The panel nuts mount onto the grill itself.

73 Cuda Grill HW in Body Shop

Finally getting ready to put the grill back in. Have the HW kit from Classic Ind. There are two white plastic parts that I believe the chrome plated

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Picture from that thread

The parts book is not real helpful either.

I made this composite picture just now with grill pictures from my computer. You can see the panel nuts clip to the grill to receive the phillips head screw to secure the headlamp bezels.

I found this thread just now.

Thread '72-73 Cuda Grill installation FYI'

Jul 3, 2020

After a few hours trying to figure out the correct parts for the grill from the kits available. (not on YouTube, in the Mitchell or Factory Manuals. I looked and I have the orginals bought with the car.) The plastic is there assuming you don't have the factory speed nuts. Pop them the hole above the square on the fender to radiator support and use the long washer screws in the kit.The screws also fit speed nuts.

• 7T2FISH
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Also this similar thread

1972-74 grille piece help in Body Shop

Does anyone have a picture of the correct tab or grommet that the top of the grille screws into? It appears there are 4-5 slots for grommets or tabs t

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It appears to show where these pieces go at the top of the grill to the header panel? The header panel has slots under it that these insert to. Not sure about the screw that is used

Not real sure about the remainder of the panel nuts and the bolts/screws.
The white plastic ones with the chrome screws are also a puzzle.

 

[Flathead31coupe]

I appreciate all the help. It is a puzzle for some reason.I thought that some of those clips, they are wide on one end enough to go on the plastic itself and then screw through the metal tabs in the valance the lower grill.But like I said , i'm not sure.. The only thing i've been able to come up with is is suggested to have the lower valance off to put the lower grill on

 

[larry4406]

I appreciate all the help. It is a puzzle for some reason.I thought that some of those clips, they are wide on one end enough to go on the plastic itself and then screw through the metal tabs in the valance the lower grill.But like I said , i'm not sure.. The only thing i've been able to come up with is is suggested to have the lower valance off to put the lower grill on

The lower valance I recall having a female groove on the bottom that simply slid onto the metal valence. Then if I recall correctly there is a screw each side outboard of the lights.

I have an NOS lower valance downstairs for my ‘72. I will try to look at it over the weekend.

My ‘72 is not in a good state.

 

[Flathead31coupe]

The lower valance I recall having a female groove on the bottom that simply slid onto the metal valence. Then if I recall correctly there is a screw each side outboard of the lights.

I have an NOS lower valance downstairs for my ‘72. I will try to look at it over the weekend.

My ‘72 is not in a good state.

You're\nCorrect about the two screws.. There are a total of five metal tabs on the valance itself three are at an angle at the bottom that matched the tabs on the lower grill.\n I just wasn't sure if the metal clips Attached to the plastic grill itself, or the metal tabs on the valance. I really appreciate the help

 

[larry4406]

You're\nCorrect about the two screws.. There are a total of five metal tabs on the valance itself three are at an angle at the bottom that matched the tabs on the lower grill.\n I just wasn't sure if the metal clips Attached to the plastic grill itself, or the metal tabs on the valance. I really appreciate the help

Perhaps the (2) chrome screws with the white plastic pieces are for the lower valence? Those screws would be visible.

 

[Flathead31coupe]

Perhaps the (2) chrome screws with the white plastic pieces are for the lower valence? Those screws would be visible.

That's kind of what I was thinking..

 

[Flathead31coupe]

So Would you say that the metal clips most of them would go into the plastic grill instead of the core support and lower balance metal tabs.. Seems like it would be more secure to have the metal clips on the grill itself on both grills

 

[larry4406]

So Would you say that the metal clips most of them would go into the plastic grill instead of the core support and lower balance metal tabs.. Seems like it would be more secure to have the metal clips on the grill itself on both grills

I will try to look at my ‘72 tomorrow. It got smashed by a tree 12-15 years ago….

 

[Flathead31coupe]

After looking at it just a little while ago I believe those 4 black pieces do go in on the top side of the\n Top header piece. And there 4 or 5 screws that go along the top of the header that the clips go into the header.So I'm going to have to say that the top grill does not have any of the metal fasteners attached to the grill itself.That's what i've come across so far

 

[Flathead31coupe]

Similar thread but not a lot of detail. I believe the 6 black phillips head screws and 6 metal panel nuts are to to mount the head lamp bezels (3 each per lamp). The panel nuts mount onto the grill itself.

http://[URL]https://forum.e-bodies.org/body-shop/5/73-cuda-grill-hw/11800/

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Picture from that thread
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The parts book is not real helpful either.
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I made this composite picture just now with grill pictures from my computer. You can see the panel nuts clip to the grill to receive the phillips head screw to secure the headlamp bezels.

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I found this thread just now.

Thread '72-73 Cuda Grill installation FYI'

Jul 3, 2020

After a few hours trying to figure out the correct parts for the grill from the kits available. (not on YouTube, in the Mitchell or Factory Manuals. I looked and I have the orginals bought with the car.) The plastic is there assuming you don't have the factory speed nuts. Pop them the hole above the square on the fender to radiator support and use the long washer screws in the kit.The screws also fit speed nuts.

• 7T2FISH
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• Forum: Body Shop

Also this similar thread

http://[URL]https://forum.e-bodies....rille-piece-help/16470/msg83856;topicseen#new

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It appears to show where these pieces go at the top of the grill to the header panel? The header panel has slots under it that these insert to. Not sure about the screw that is used
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Not real sure about the remainder of the panel nuts and the bolts/screws.
The white plastic ones with the chrome screws are also a puzzle.

The 4 plastic pieces seem to be correct.And what you're saying how they are placed in the slotted parts in the header.

 

[Flathead31coupe]

I'm still\nUnable to determine if theu nuts clips go on the lower grill tabs or the lower valance tabs.. thanks

 

[larry4406]

I'm still\nUnable to determine if theu nuts clips go on the lower grill tabs or the lower valance tabs.. thanks

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My got feel is that the metal spring nut goes on the metal valence then the bolt with integral washer is thru the plastic valence.

I have not had a chance to look at mine. Currently pouring down rain.

 

[Flathead31coupe]

My got feel is that the metal spring nut goes on the metal valence then the bolt with integral washer is thru the plastic valence.

I have not had a chance to look at mine. Currently pouring down rain.

I was thinking that way as well, but I have noticed that most of the time the spring net will go on the slotted side of something.\n And the boat will go through the normal hole In something but I don't know lol.. Also the washers on the bolts that came with the kit.Look to be really too small. It's funny.There is not any information , much on the installation of the upper and lower grill... I have not had any luck on any pictures either... On line...

 

[larry4406]

I think the 1972 Plymouth Chrysler Imperial Body Service Manual is needed until someones detailed pictures are provided.

I do not have a copy of this manual but would like one. I searched for a free PDF and have not found one.

I have a PDF of the '70 combined body and chassis manual and a PDF's of the '71 body manual, '71 chassis manual, and '72 chassis manual. The body manuals provide some details for the '70 and '71 grill mounting.

 

[Flathead31coupe]

I think the 1972 Plymouth Chrysler Imperial Body Service Manual is needed until someones detailed pictures are provided.

I do not have a copy of this manual but would like one. I searched for a free PDF and have not found one.

I have a PDF of the '70 combined body and chassis manual and a PDF's of the '71 body manual, '71 chassis manual, and '72 chassis manual. The body manuals provide some details for the '70 and '71 grill mounting.

What I have found out so far is that the kit that I have , and that is shown in a post.. Is for the upper grill only... There is supposed to be a different kit for the lower grill.If that's what they are calling it , maybe it's not called a lower grill lol

 

[larry4406]

What I have found out so far is that the kit that I have , and that is shown in a post.. Is for the upper grill only... There is supposed to be a different kit for the lower grill.If that's what they are calling it , maybe it's not called a lower grill lol

I ordered a hard copy set of original ‘72 manuals off eBay.

Will be interesting to see what the body manual shows for the grill installation.

 

[Flathead31coupe]

I ordered a hard copy set of original ‘72 manuals off eBay.

Will be interesting to see what the body manual shows for the grill installation.

After a lot of searching , I had someone recommend this.. Supposedly the correct one... Kind of makes sense , looking at it now , l o l. I guess it helps to know what I am looking for LO.L

 

[larry4406]

After a lot of searching , I had someone recommend this.. Supposedly the correct one... Kind of makes sense , looking at it now , l o l. I guess it helps to know what I am looking for LO.L

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But you have a '73...

The lower plastic grille, valance, whatever you call it is different.
'70 one year only. Metal valance no holes for lights
'71 one year only. Metal valance has holes for lights and the opening is different
'72-74 same plastic piece. Metal valance no holes for lights; I believe it is the same as the '70 version.

Not sure how the MegaParts listing can then be for both a '70 and '71