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1970 E-body Radio option code R21

ylocuda

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Thanks for the education. Based on the A01 package that my car definitely reflects, I guess it most likely came with an AM radio option R11. Maybe the tag should have been R11 and not R21? Also if Y39 is also not correct, should I explore a new tag that reflects what I have correctly? I would not ever try pass it off as original (tag) with goal to make it all as correct as I can based on the car itself. I rebuilt this car from the ground up every nut and bolt myself with never ending research, so I’m very familiar with what would be original versus passed off as added on. Goal again is to bring it back to physically as it was delivered (except adding rear spoiler). Thanks for all the help!
 
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I think a new more accurate tag would be a wise decision.
If you make it as close to possible but make sure it is known to be a new tag the car would not appear as a "fake tag" as it has been. It would help you with not having folks think it was intentionally "faked".

Here is one option for a new tag.
reproduction fender tags
I would definitely keep the tag with the car no matter what and include it with the history of the car regardless.
 

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Ylocuda, never intended to attack you personally, only the fender tag. As you can see, MoparCarGuy has tons of factory order information to help straighten us out! I agree the car is a 384 4spd AC car and you've done a great job making it road worthy and beautiful! I sincerely hope you enjoy driving it, because E-Bodies are fun to drive!
 

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Hi everyone. Another question about my car thats not clear in the available data being a 4sp with A/C, what is the right radiator part number? Is it the 956 or the 961? The original radiator blew up the day I bought the in LA and drove it to Yuma Az in 1990. I was dumb then and threw it away.
 

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1970 Cuda 383 with A/C had a 26" radiator. The radiator chart shows both the core stamped number 2998 958 & 2998 961 but the 961 is the 383-4 BBL radiator.
The 956 may also be correct as it is listed under Maximum Cooling. Glen-Ray Radiators has outstanding reproduction radiators that include the correct radiator cap and ribbed overflow hose.
1970-1971 Radiator List.jpg

Cuda 383 Radiators from Service Manual 7-11.jpg
 

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Thanks Moparcarguy. Thats the first listing I have seen that is definitive to the 961 radiator. Other listings would have noted it was for Auto trans and why I was never sure. There is a 961 radiator on E-bay right now for $300 that needs to be re-cored but tanks appear to be nice. Not sure thats worth re-coring (actual cost) or just laying out cash for glen ray?
 

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Ok, I am moving past the fender tag argument and lets say it was reproduced due to the left front accident and that the inner fender was replaced and the tag was mangled. The facts I think we all can agree on based on VIN number is the car is a 383 Cuda. It definitely is a 4sp and definitely came with A/C. This is not something dealerships would have on their lots. Someone had to place an order to get this combo. Would this be why the tag shows the Y39 option?
Does the four speed have the partial VIN stamped into it showing it is original to the car? If not, you CANNOT say for sure that it was a four speed, it could have been a three speed.
That aside, there are GLARINGLY OBVIOUS things about your tag that have not even been brought up that really throw into question that anything listed on the tag actually came on this car. It is a terrible attempt at making a tag by someone that really knew/knows ZERO about 1970 E Bodies.
 

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Thanks 70 4715 for taking this backwards. I have been taking apart and rebuilding mopars since 1981. (73 Challenger, 71 Challenger, 74 Charger and 70 challenger that was burned in a fire). I know them incredibly well right down to the type of screws are correct. If there were any weld jobs or changes in the shift tower connected to the floor boards or the entire firewall being changed out to accommodate A/C I would easily know. Also once again the car was bound for the junk yard and I saved it. There was no reason anyone would have modified a car thats was not worthy one bit to improve its sale ability. Your talking about someone really wanting to fake a car that was basically worthless? I probably paid too much for it in 1990 at $5800. The tag accurately reflects the car and its options. I know what I am looking at. Based on all your posts, It seems your a pessimist and will still not give me the benefit of any doubts.
 
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