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Alternator - Voltage regulator using AAW replacement harness?

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I am in the process of replacing the entire wiring harness in my 73 Cuda with a AAW Classis update kit. Also replacing stock instrument cluster with Classic Industries Elite dash and gauge kit, will be trashing the ammeter and replacing with the Classic Ind ammeter supplied.
The AAW kit only provides instructions for using a 1 wire alternator. I would prefer to use my stock Mopar 3 wire alternator and external voltage regulator, simply because i have about 3 freshly rebuilt mopar alternators and dont want to spend the $$$ to change to a 1 wire alternator.
I suspect this should be doable, just not sure what is required. Any advise?
Not a numbers matching show car, just a driver quality cruiser, No power seats or windows, No A/C, just a fun cruiser. 440/727.
 
Do you have the old harness? In short you will need to strip the blue and green leads from the alternator plugs to the voltage regulator. Keep in mind the regulator needs a ground where ever you put it. You will have to pick up ignition switched power under the hood somewhere, for the voltage regulator to work.

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To understand what you want to do. Understand how it works first. That way you can trouble shoot it if need be.
Mopar charging, Voltage regulator.

This is for stock Mopar charging system.

1:With the key in the off position. Should have at the alternator output post battery voltage.

2:The field wires should both read zero we should have no voltage.

3: If there is voltage at the field wires with the key off, there is a wiring problem.

4: If no voltage here at the alternator output with the key off then we likely have either a dead battery or we have a wiring problem or blown fusible link.

5: With the key in the on position. there will be voltage at the alternator output, it's going to be lower than what it was with the key off, because the entire vehicle is energized. The voltage drop is going to be more you can still you can see it go from
12 and a half down to 11.7. Still going to have near battery voltage.

6: What's important. With the key on. The field wires should have voltage. It won't be full battery voltage but it's has power coming to the alternator and it will be a lot less on one side and one side is high. That's the inlet so that's power going into the field windings.
The other one, the one that's low is the output from the field windings.
The output from the field winding is what goes back to the voltage regulator.
The voltage regulator on this is simply a switch ( Remember it needs a good ground to function.) all it's going to do is connect this field terminal here to ground and when it connects it to ground electricity then flows through the field windings energizing it and causing the alternator to charge.

7: Run test: This is for stock Mopar charging system.
Before doing the run test you're going to want to connect directly to the field output terminal on the alternator, with some sort of a jumper wire. You can remove the existing field wire if it helps you to get to it. Use a jumper wire that comes back to the battery and it's not connected to anything right now. Have the voltage meter connected to the battery. Just checking battery voltage 12.3 volts there abouts. By touching the jumper wire to the negative terminal.
Just grounding it you can hear the engine load up because it's pulling a load and the voltage runs up to 14. That tells you that when the field in the alternator is energized it's charging. The alternator is good. Now you know that it's not an alternator problem at this point. If it's not charging you have a no charge scenario but this passes then you know it's the voltage regulator or some wire up to it. it's most likely the voltage regulator and that's all it takes to diagnose the charging system on one of these.
Here again If the any ground is bad or loose. it won't charge correctly or reliability. They become phantom grounds that just keep haunting you! That being the Voltage regulator ground, chassis ground, engine ground, Bolts, bolt holes, nuts and mounting brackets. 99% of the time there overlooked. The whole car is a ground.
That's all I have to say about that!
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Do you have the old harness? In short you will need to strip the blue and green leads from the alternator plugs to the voltage regulator. Keep in mind the regulator needs a ground where ever you put it. You will have to pick up ignition switched power under the hood somewhere, for the voltage regulator to work.
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Thanks. I have taken several layers of tape off the old harness, previous owner had spliced and cut up and hidden lots of surprises, i think he may have been color blind and electrically challenged. Also have reviewed my FSM again, should be able to tie into IGN 2 feed at dual ballast resistor as per original system.
 
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