Juan Veldez
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If you are running compression in the 10:1 range or over, I'd go high torque. That's me.
Regular Mini Starter vs Hi-Torque
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Challenger RTA
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higher torque starters are specifically designed for 16:1 and higher compression ratios and are not really designed for use in your stock or slightly modified street car. Base your decision on this. that's what I got from the article.
Thank you. So I assume all of the 'I use this" comments from people are regular torque starters as probably most people have less that 10:1 or 16:1 compression. Yes the starter literature also indicates high compression for high-torque starters. Since no one commented that a regular torque starter was not sufficient for a typical compression engine, I will go with a regular torque starter.
If a mini starter is working on all the engines listed in this post why worry about high torque starter unless you have a 12 to 1 compression monster. So we did answer your question. It's your money buy what you feel happy with. Other then a wiring problem with a Dakota everybody is happy with just a mini starter.
Unless your engine has a 12:1 or more compression ratio you won't need a high torque starter.
wedge_426, a member of this forum, sells this terminal kit that has proved to be very helpful on clearance issues. I have included a link to his eBay page. I hope this will be helpful to you. :
Mopar Mini Starter Terminal Conversion/Relocation Kit *THE BEST, PLEASE READ!!* | eBay
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kudakoda
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I also use the mid nineties Dakota starter with no issues. I have one on a 426 crate, a 318 and a 383. Not sure why you would need a hi torque unless you are spinning at hi compression.
Oystercopy
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I too am looking for a new starter, and I'm pretty sure I have the Mini Starter in the car now. I have TTI headers so I know there are some clearance issues there.
Anyone recommend a particular BRAND? Or are they all about the same?
Anyone recommend a particular BRAND? Or are they all about the same?
Cuda Hunter
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American made first
Canadian made second
Mexican made third
all other countries when desperate or autozone lazy.
Canadian made second
Mexican made third
all other countries when desperate or autozone lazy.
Cuda Hunter
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Go to the second post in this thread.
Flchallenger
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My mini spins a 512 stroker with 10:1 compression. No problem. So a hi torque is not required unless you are running higher compressions I would think. What do the starter companies say about it. I would call one and ask what they are recommended for and why.
I decided (with the help of this chain) that I didn't need a hi-torque starter and went with a regular mini (
Powermaster PowerMax Plus PWM-9300). It turns over my 440 magnum with ease but the clearance for the connection wires and the block is startlingly close (like 1/4") and incredibly difficult to tighten the connections with the starter in place. I should have removed the starter and attached the wires first (but I was stubborn). I noted this issue with Summit and their answer was clearance for headers. However I think the connections could be put on the underside and the power wire to the starter motor on the top. Whatever, it's done now.
Powermaster PowerMax Plus PWM-9300). It turns over my 440 magnum with ease but the clearance for the connection wires and the block is startlingly close (like 1/4") and incredibly difficult to tighten the connections with the starter in place. I should have removed the starter and attached the wires first (but I was stubborn). I noted this issue with Summit and their answer was clearance for headers. However I think the connections could be put on the underside and the power wire to the starter motor on the top. Whatever, it's done now.
Juan Veldez
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Note the relocation kit that Rons340 listed above. That may remedy the difficulty you are having for the install and may stop future arcing.
Thanks Juan. When I first read that post I didn't clearly understand ... now I do
Flchallenger
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Be sure and use a sleeve on the top bolt. The hole in the starter flange is larger than the hole on the bell housing allowing it to shift over enough to contact the block. I had this happen with Rons relocating kit. It had a hole in the plastic cap on top after 3 or 4 crankings. The sleeve is what fixed it on mine. Good luck. If the battery dies it is mostly likely this starter. It was on my car.
