New Cuda Owner from Long Island NY

[gman72]

Hey Everyone. I bought my first mopar last week. Pictures attached. Sight unseen from an auction. A 1973 Plymouth Barracuda 340. I love it. I am pretty excited to start my journey. I am kind of a newbie to all of this. I started my journey with classic cars in 2021. I bought a 65 Mustang which I still have. My son and I did a ton of work on it and learned quite a lot. So we felt it was time to take the next step. Since the car was delivered to us we were dying to drive it so even though there is still a ton of salt on the roads here in NY we decided to take it out for our first drive this past Saturday. Right off the bat we realized it is running very rich, and smoke and a little oil was coming out of the breather cap that has the 3 outlets. Ok, we continued driving to the gas station (was almost on E). We start to fill up and after 9 gallons I stop filling because I hear liquid like someone was taking a leak near by. I look under the car and I see gasoline dribbling out of what looks to be the front part of the fuel tank!! Holy crap! I was not expecting that. I run to tell the gas station attendant which happened to be a middle aged Indian woman that spoke little English. She calmly said no problem and looked away...ok. So I called the fire department. They came (all of them) and a couple of hours later we were back home. I had the car towed. After crawling under the car it looks like the fuel sender has a port that is missing a hose. That seems to be the culprit. I have attached a picture of that and also the breather cap I mentioned earlier. So our first experience was not ideal, but we did get to meet a nice Indian woman, the whole Oyster Bay fire department, and a tow truck driver. I am glad to be here. Looking forward to getting my hands dirty. Thanks.

 

[6PKRTSE]

Welcome. Nice car. It looks like it was expensive. Good luck with your Son on the new project. Being the Father and Son project aspect of it is more important than the style or type of car itself.

 

[Mopar Nut]

Very nice.

 

[fasjac]

Welcome to the site from Arkansas!

 

[MOPARMITCH]

Welcome to the Madness. !!!!

 

[DetMatt1]

Welcome to the site from the Motor City!

 

[Chryco Psycho]

Welcome !

 

[FrankenKuda]

Welcome GMan72 from a fellow 72 member. Your tank appears to be missing the connection to the vapor separator. The entire device may be missing. It was likely disconnected because it was plugged up making it difficult to fuel or was causing fuel pump feed issue by creating a vacuum. Put a new one on and at least this issue should go away. You'll have more to come! The breather needs vacuum lines either from the carb or a connection on the intake to tap vacuum lines from. The large tube used to go to the air cleaner.

 

[gman72]

@FrankenKuda You are right. It doesn't look like I have anywhere to connect to the vapor separator. I have the vapor separator, but the lines are cut off. I am attaching a picture of my dirty filthy tank.LOL Yours is pristine!! Beautiful.

 

[gman72]

Welcome. Nice car. It looks like it was expensive. Good luck with your Son on the new project. Being the Father and Son project aspect of it is more important than the style or type of car itself.

The father son aspect is definitely the best!. When I was his age(21) I was always out with my friends never hung out with my dad. Working on cars has made our relationship stronger.

 

[FrankenKuda]

That was from the internet. You should see the one I took out of my rusty car back from 1982! What a mess. There should be one more tube on the other side. (The side not in the picture).

 

[mrmopar340]

Welcome to the site. All of our cars are projects it seems. I don't think we ever get done with them. Glad to know it's a dual project with your son. You will have many enjoyable miles once you get it all sorted out.it has good bones as we say and you'll have it sorted soon.

 

[FrankenKuda]

A couple more things: If the four hoses are not connected to anything, they should be. On the top front part of your tank should be the four metal lines that go to that device. If not, check the passenger side. Either location should have 4 metal tubes for those hoses. I found it odd that you had that connection anyway. I don't recall my 72's having that second tube. Someone may have installed the wrong year tank in your car. After 50yrs the tank straps will rub on the tank, cause rust and form a leak. I bet, that's a "new" tank. Either way you need a vent line on that tank tube. I don't know what 1970 'Cuda's used. That may be what the tank was designed for. I'd have to investigate that.
As for your son: Good call, I rebuilt my transmission with my son last fall. He currently works in SC but when he comes home every so often, I put him to work in the garage with me do I can impart knowledge since he wants the car when I'm called home.

 

[FrankenKuda]

You're tank vent lines should look something like this. Again, I'm not sure what the other tube is for out of your tank's fuel pick-up/sender. I only have one. I goofed about the 5th tube. That's the one going to the charcoal filter. I hope these help. See attached. The sending unit is from my 72 Barracuda (note only one tube). The fuel vent is from my 72 Cuda which should also be common with 73's and 74's. The little tube on the "backside" is the one going to the charcoal filter. I found the drawing on the internet and is for a 72 Charger which appears to be similar. It mentions a tube at filter for a tank overfill. It may be a hose can be run from your second sender tube to that.

For the others on this site that know better: I added a dedicated ground wire to my sender so it would not depend on the tank/straps and bolts for a ground path. You can see that black wire going through the grommet with the sending unit wire. I soldered it on with a connection tab. It still needs corrosion protection (paste) to survive down there. In boating there is a paste called "NO-OX-ID used for electrical connections in the bilge.

I hope all this helps. Good luck and welcome. A lot of help can be found on this site. I'm just dangerous, not an expert.

 

[tonysrt]

Welcome from Northport. I have a 71 Cuda that I FI and used a Tanks inc. tank with an electric pump. I also have a 74 Duster and installed same tank with the electric fuel pump. Since they are not daily drivers, the electric pump makes starting so much faster. The Duster is a carb and what an asset the pump makes for when car sits for a month, especially with the amount of snow we had this year. Hope to see you in the some of the shows when the weather breaks. Sunday guys meet at the Smithhaven mall.

 

[Xcudame]

Welcome to FEBO from the desert! Salt on roads? What's that for! Nice 72 Cuda!!
That's a lot of fuel hose going to the carburetor. I like a solid metal fuel line myself. Something like this:

Mancini Racing Pump to Carb Lines, 2pc

 

[gman72]

You're tank vent lines should look something like this. Again, I'm not sure what the other tube is for out of your tank's fuel pick-up/sender. I only have one. I goofed about the 5th tube. That's the one going to the charcoal filter. I hope these help. See attached. The sending unit is from my 72 Barracuda (note only one tube). The fuel vent is from my 72 Cuda which should also be common with 73's and 74's. The little tube on the "backside" is the one going to the charcoal filter. I found the drawing on the internet and is for a 72 Charger which appears to be similar. It mentions a tube at filter for a tank overfill. It may be a hose can be run from your second sender tube to that.

For the others on this site that know better: I added a dedicated ground wire to my sender so it would not depend on the tank/straps and bolts for a ground path. You can see that black wire going through the grommet with the sending unit wire. I soldered it on with a connection tab. It still needs corrosion protection (paste) to survive down there. In boating there is a paste called "NO-OX-ID used for electrical connections in the bilge.

I hope all this helps. Good luck and welcome. A lot of help can be found on this site. I'm just dangerous, not an expert.

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Lot's of good info. Thanks. I have some homework to do now. My tank might be from an earlier car because I didn't notice any ports for the tube to go into. I will have to double check.

 

[gman72]

Welcome from Northport. I have a 71 Cuda that I FI and used a Tanks inc. tank with an electric pump. I also have a 74 Duster and installed same tank with the electric fuel pump. Since they are not daily drivers, the electric pump makes starting so much faster. The Duster is a carb and what an asset the pump makes for when car sits for a month, especially with the amount of snow we had this year. Hope to see you in the some of the shows when the weather breaks. Sunday guys meet at the Smithhaven mall.

Northport?!? We are practically cousins! LOL. I look forward to meeting up one day.

 

[gman72]

Welcome to FEBO from the desert! Salt on roads? What's that for! Nice 72 Cuda!!
That's a lot of fuel hose going to the carburetor. I like a solid metal fuel line myself. Something like this:

http://[URL]https://www.manciniracing.com/maraputocali77.html

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Thanks for the link. Yeah getting a solid metal line installed from pump to carb was high on my to do list. The rubber one looks like it is cracking. Makes me very uneasy.

 

[Challenger RTA]

Welcome to FEBO. Nice lady in red.
Caulk one up for the gremlins. Get on it before the other wake up. Just don't feed them. No matter What!