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Best clutch set up for A833

72CudaROG

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Hey guys Emmy clutch just went out on my 72 cuda. Had a 10 1/2” Luck set up, car is making around 500hp now and that clutch didn’t last long.

What do you guys recommend, change flywheel to 11” and go to something like this? Or are there even better options.


Still want it streetable
 

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I use Centerforce with well over 500hp no issues, very streetable. It’s a BB, 11” set up. Have never used McLeod but, everyone seems to like them that have.
 

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.......change flywheel to 11”...............

Are you thinking a 143 tooth flywheel? Do you have the bell or SS to fit? Don't forget the starter would move outward as well. My 143 tooth 11" BB set has been fine but is aged.
When it "expires" or I invoke the GOYA principal on myself, I plan on downsizing to this 10-1/2" BB 3100#. My left leg needs the workout!;)
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Here is the scoop , the 143 tooth flywheel & the 130 tooth flywheel both use the same 11" disc , the 130 tooth is called a 10.95" to differentiate , Never waste you time with a 10.5" disc , it works for 318s maybe , , you need 11" [10.95 "], there is no advantage to swapping the belhousing & flywheel to the 143 tooth .
The best clutches I have found are McLeod street twins using dual discs , worst I have found are Centerforce , they will hang on high RPM shifts & I have seen them last less than a weekend !
I prefer 3 finger type , this is what the car was designed to use , McLeod used to make a B&B Long with lighter pedal pressure in a street twin which is what I am running .
I hate diaphragm style they release weird can also hang on high RPM shifts but most companies are using them now , probably cheaper to build .
The shortest lifespan a clutch had in my cars was 75 miles , the power of the engine tore the friction surface right off the disc in only a few launches !
 

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The real 11" disc would catch on the 11" scalloped PPs. The reason for the "10.95" disc was to use a larger disc with the normally 10-1/2" 130 tooth flywheel.
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If you say so , I order the exact same disc from McLeod for both so they are probably only making 1 disc as the same part # came up for the disc in both applications , it may be 1/8" smaller .
 
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@Chryco Psycho

The best clutches I have found are McLeod street twins using dual discs , worst I have found are Centerforce , they will hang on high RPM shifts & I have seen them last less than a weekend !
I prefer 3 finger type , this is what the car was designed to use , McLeod used to make a B&B Long with lighter pedal pressure in a street twin which is what I am running .
Is this the pressure plate you refer too? Its the only Mopar B&B style I can find from Mcleod. Not cheap!
 

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Yes that is the pressure plate I have most often used in the past .
As I have learned , performance is not cheap , you can buy 5 $200 clutches & keep replacing them or buy 1 good one that will last , a lot less labor buying good parts the first time !
With a well built 500+ CI stroker you can make a lot of torque most single disc 11" clutches will not hold it for long .
 
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Just installed a Ram B&B 2400LB pressure skate and ceramic/organic disk. Very pleased with its lighter pedal pressure and no chatter. Note that I had great followup and support from Ram support. Also be advised any new clutch for any warranty claims requires either a new flywheel or 1 that is resurfaced..

Just my $0.02...
 

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Id stick to the 10.5" personally. Also I would call one of the manufacturers or perhaps Brewers as ask them.
Brewers is the best! They specialize in A833 transmissions and offer a full line of clutches and associated parts.
 
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Here’s what I ordered. Hope it works!! Also I’ve noticed that it’s been hard to shift into second and 4th gear, sometimes doesn’t engage, what is that about?


 

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Might be a couple of things;

1. linkage not adjusted correctly
2. sloppy or loose shifter/rods
3. synchro rings worn (or perhaps something else internally)
 
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